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    Quote Originally Posted by WeCallEmRockfish View Post
    Well now I'm very interested in the new Compass, after reading about it in the latest issue of Kayak Angler and doing some research online. The price tag is nice too (1949 base).

    Anybody used one yet?
    I have not used one but I inspected one up close at DPS.

    It's a very nice boat and I believe it is Hobie's attempt to produce a multi-purpose pedal kayak for under $2K.

    They saved costs in two distinct ways:

    1. It does not include the 180 Mirage Drive.
    2. The raised seat is not as upscale or as adjustable as in their Revos and Outbacks.

    The rudder system is different too. But how I cannot explain.

    I actually contemplated a Compass prior to replacing my Revo with another one. It's listed as a couple of pounds lighter than my Revo and since I'm at my car-topping limit with my Revo I figured every pound less would only help.

    However, the major thing that deterred me was the inside-the-gunnel placement of the handles. The Compass is a much wider boat than my Revo and I would have a difficult time grasping and lifting it with the handles placed as they are.

    So I haven't been on the water in one. But my guess is from the sharp cut of the bow that the Compass will not the have the hull-slap that some complain about in the Outback in rough water. It's also likely to be a very stable boat due to its width. But again, that will come with a tradeoff in the effort required to propel it when compared to sleeker hulls.

    At this point there are plenty of Compass user reviews on-line. You might want to Google them.

    Better yet, take a look at the boats in person at a local distributor. I've purchased Hobies from both Backyard Boats and DPS. The sales folks at both outlets were super helpful.
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    Buy your yak from wherever you want. For me I went to DPS for the $150 credit and $160 in NO taxes. That equals $310 in my pocket. They are a 2 hour plus drive compared to the Annapolis dealer. BUT, if I have a warranty issue I will take it to Annapolis. Why, because the warranty is from Hobie so any/all Hobie dealer will honor it.

    The other reason I went to DPS is they are awesome to work with. I lost my Certificate of Ownership, called them on Friday and they shipped out a copy got it today!! Also had an issue with the MD180 cables. Called DPS and within 3 days I had new cables direct from Hobie. Great service!!

    DPS offers Demo days. Go to their web page for dates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post

    The rudder system is different too. But how I cannot explain.

    I actually contemplated a Compass prior to replacing my Revo with another one. It's listed as a couple of pounds lighter than my Revo and since I'm at my car-topping limit with my Revo I figured every pound less would only help.

    However, the major thing that deterred me was the inside-the-gunnel placement of the handles. The Compass is a much wider boat than my Revo and I would have a difficult time grasping and lifting it with the handles placed as they are.
    The rudder system for the Compass is more like the PA style, not a "Twist n' Stow". It's inline with the hull and held up by a cord and when the cord is released, it drops. I am not a fan of the Compass handle placement myself. Excellent discussion.

    I believe someone mentioned this accident http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...man_jumps.html in earlier. It really demonstrates to me the need for defensive boating. A good safety tip I have yet to implement personally, is painting my paddle blades hi-vis orange or attaching reflective material to them.
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    Default Hobie Outback Standard vs. Camo

    Quote Originally Posted by WeCallEmRockfish View Post
    Well now I'm very interested in the new Compass, after reading about it in the latest issue of Kayak Angler and doing some research online. The price tag is nice too (1949 base).

    Anybody used one yet?
    Yes, Iíve used one. IMHO its the best kayak hobie has ever made. Crazy light (lighter than the revo),crazy fast, crazy stable (wider than the outback), great rudder, cuts through waves like a revo instead of bashing into them like the outback.

    Its a bit stripped down, but those things can be added to compete with the revo or outback. But those two cant compete with the Compassís design.


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    Have a boat that is visible and just upgrade the individual rudder and fins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Yes, I’ve used one. IMHO its the best kayak hobie has ever made. Crazy light (lighter than the revo),crazy fast, crazy stable (wider than the outback), great rudder, cuts through waves like a revo instead of bashing into them like the outback.

    Its a bit stripped down, but those things can be added to compete with the revo or outback. But those two cant compete with the Compass’s design.


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    Awesome. Headed to DPS on Sunday to sit in one and customize it. Will probably buy it.

    I don't love the Seagrass Green color - I'd much prefer the blue, but everybody here seems to put visibility at the top of priority list. I've never really worried about that much - my Big Game is gray camo - but perhaps I should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ski357 View Post
    A good safety tip I have yet to implement personally, is painting my paddle blades hi-vis orange or attaching reflective material to them.
    Indeed, moving paddles are the first thing I see of distant kayakers on the water. I rarely see the kayak at all without an intense look, regardless of the boat's color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Indeed, moving paddles are the first thing I see of distant kayakers on the water. I rarely see the kayak at all without an intense look, regardless of the boat's color.
    To add to Mark's comment, adding reflective 3M tape to your yak paddles (and/or all gear as shown below) is one of the most effective visual cue's (similar to using a mirror to direct/reflect sunlight)







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    Quote Originally Posted by mchottie View Post
    To add to Mark's comment, adding reflective 3M tape to your yak paddles (and/or all gear as shown below) is one of the most effective visual cue's (similar to using a mirror to direct/reflect sunlight)
    Out of curiosity, how well does the 3M hold up each season? Do you have to reapply or does it hold?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Yes, I’ve used one. IMHO its the best kayak hobie has ever made. Crazy light (lighter than the revo),crazy fast, crazy stable (wider than the outback), great rudder, cuts through waves like a revo instead of bashing into them like the outback.

    Its a bit stripped down, but those things can be added to compete with the revo or outback. But those two cant compete with the Compass’s design.


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    Based on the praise, I may have to demo one of these as well as a revo and an outback, assuming I go to purchase a pedal kayak in the next couple of months.

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