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    Cabin fever strikes...you can only clean your tackle so much...I was channel surfing when I came upon the River Monsters show...Jeremy Wade was fishing for giant Mekong Carp...seems like there are huge tournaments held all over the world by professional carp fishermen...especially in Great Britain...when I was a kid we used to take a small can of whole kernel corn and a short shank stout #6 hook on a Mitchell 300 Spinning outfit with 10# mono and go to big ponds and fish for carp...it was amazing what you could catch in these ponds...big 30-40 pound carp...early spring seemed like my memories of those days...now days we call these “trash fish” , but in Europe and Asia they are highly regarded sport fish...last February I hung one in Mattawoman Creek that was really big...had to come off anchor to fight and land it... I was fishing for catfish with stink Ball dough bait...fun fight, but not what I was expecting nor targeting...so does anyone here actual target giant carp or are they strictly a by-catch...seems like it could be a real rod-bender, sleigh-ride fishing trip...
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    Ron,

    You're right that carp are an underappreciated fish in the U.S. They are an invasive species, after all and that may be one reason they are overlooked. But we've seen other invasive species work their way into anglers' hearts, the snakehead being the most recent example.

    Some folks in the U.S. have discovered the enjoyment that catching carp can bring. For the past few Junes, a member of the Free State Fly Fishers has organized a trip to Beaver Island, MI to target carp. I have desperately wanted to go on that trip but family obligations have deterred me each time. Unfortunately, I don't believe it will be on the FSFF trip calendar this year.

    But here's a link to the guide service in MI if anyone is interested: http://carptrip.com/

    There are some encouraging photos on that link. Check out the video too.

    Note that huge smallmouth bass are viewed as a side catch at that location.

    Mitchell 300 -- Now that brings back some memories. I still have the one I purchased as a kid.
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    Yeah Mark...I bought my Mitchell 300 at Oklahoma Tire And Supply in Hot Springs, Arkansas, for $12.99 on sale, regularly $19.99...that was a lot of cutting grass money back in the day for a “French Spinner”...
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    Yep. I got mine for about the same price at "2 Guys" department store in Glen Burnie over 50 years ago.

    Guess what? It still works! Darned things were almost indestructible.
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    One of my roommates from back in college was big into carp. He used to spend a lot of time on the Mohawk River in NY chasing them. He spent a lot of time chumming his spots, making specialty flavored baits, tying rigs to very specific specs, and using special rods. It seemed like a lot of prep work and investment to go fishing; almost like a hunting trip. But he did catch a lot of carp 30+ lbs., so it was working for him and he enjoyed it.

    Another guy I know here on the Shore (friend of a friend) is Welsh and he's told me about carp fishing back when he used to live in Wales. He made it sound like there weren't too many other fishing options in the area where he grew up though other than carp. His stories sounded pretty similar to what my roommate used to do when it came to using specialty rods, rigs, and baits, but he made it sound like they were forced to use that sorta stuff to fool the carp because so many people fished for them over there.

    Mark, interestingly enough my same friend has another buddy that I've never met but lives in MI and fly fishes for carp. I've heard the stories, and have seen the pictures, of the carp this guy catches on the fly rod using mulberry imitations. He does pretty well with the fly rod for them.

    I myself have only picked them up as bycatch and haven't ever really fished for them. But I don't really freshwater fish all that much nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slobber Bob View Post
    One of my roommates from back in college was big into carp. He used to spend a lot of time on the Mohawk River in NY chasing them. He spent a lot of time chumming his spots, making specialty flavored baits, tying rigs to very specific specs, and using special rods. It seemed like a lot of prep work and investment to go fishing; almost like a hunting trip. But he did catch a lot of carp 30+ lbs., so it was working for him and he enjoyed it.

    Another guy I know here on the Shore (friend of a friend) is Welsh and he's told me about carp fishing back when he used to live in Wales. He made it sound like there weren't too many other fishing options in the area where he grew up though other than carp. His stories sounded pretty similar to what my roommate used to do when it came to using specialty rods, rigs, and baits, but he made it sound like they were forced to use that sorta stuff to fool the carp because so many people fished for them over there.

    Mark, interestingly enough my same friend has another buddy that I've never met but lives in MI and fly fishes for carp. I've heard the stories, and have seen the pictures, of the carp this guy catches on the fly rod using mulberry imitations. He does pretty well with the fly rod for them.

    I myself have only picked them up as bycatch and haven't ever really fished for them. But I don't really freshwater fish all that much nowadays.
    Interesting...they are not easy to catch.

    I have never caught a carp on a fly. One time at Brunswick on the Potomac I saw a school of them on the far side of the river. The were sitting in slow water barely fanning their fins to maintain position in the mild current. I threw multiple flies in their direction but could not entice them to bite. It was very frustrating.

    Another carp story -- A friend of mine, (I did not witness this) told me he caught carp on fly rod poppers during a 17 year locust hatch. He said they were surfacing and gulping down locusts that had dropped to the water. He fished a Gaines Bass King size 4 popper exclusively -- their green frog pattern. He bought so many Bass King poppers from Gaines they thought he was a retailer! After viewing the carp surfacing he went home and spray painted some of his green poppers brown. He returned to the water and they worked great to fool the carp.
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    On my second ever kayak fishing trip on the Susquehanna Flats, I was trolling a 5" Storm Shad. At one point that rod went down hard and shook vigorously. I hoped I had a huge striper. But after a few minutes I saw the gold and brown colors and realized it was a large carp that attacked my Storm Shad. I did not realize at the time that carp would attack small fish.

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    I have run into a few guys fly fishing for carp along the C&O canal. It is fairly full of them, esp the lower sections. Apparently the local fly pattern is a mulberry imitator, the carp school under the trees when the berries are falling.
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    Bonefish are carp with better PR

    Out west, I would fly fish for carp and whitefish when the trout bite would die on the McCloud, and Hat Creek. To tell you the truth, it was a great fight. Those things would rip line into the backing. If my buddies wouldn't give me crap about it, i would have fished them all day.
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    I've caught two carp as a byproduct of smallmouth fishing - one on the ever popular 4" curly tail grub and the other on a pig and jig. While I enjoyed the fight it took about 10 minutes to get them canoe side and a couple more minutes to retie afterwards. Valuable fishing time lost - kind of like the CNR of freshwater.
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