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Thread: Upcoming Pickerel Hunt on Vets Day: Noob angler seeking advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimHVids View Post
    Summarized report: SKUNKED

    Details: Pulled into Weems around 9ish. There was a guy there getting ready to load his Hobie onto his truck, said he didn’t have any luck. He was targeting strippers either out on the main stem of the Severn or possibly the mouth of Weems. At this point the winds were steady, but not really heavy, and the sun was peaking in and out. Seemed perfect. Headed up stream in search of calm waters. Was throwing a shallow jerkbait at the banks and any logs/brush. This is my first time fishing in the fall like this and was kinda handicapped with my presentation, as the most ideal areas were filled with floating leaves. Caught a ton of those!! The wind started picking up and there were a few frequent bursts that kicked up waves. Switched to a drop shot and keyed in on the middle and deeper part of the Creek for some strippers. I don’t have a fish finder so not even sure if there were fish in the area. Last time I’m fishing without one. Tried targeting the pile-ons at the 2 bridges and nothing. No bites, no nibbles. The wind and wave intensity kept growing making it hard to do anything in my kayak. Called it quits...

    Attached a pic in attempts to show how choppy it was by 12:30, but doesn’t really do much justice.

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    Intrigued by the mention of a dropshot for stripers. Maybe I'm missing something but have never heard of anyone using that technique. You mean just like dropshotting for bass? If so, is it productive and what do you use for the lure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonV View Post
    Intrigued by the mention of a dropshot for stripers. Maybe I'm missing something but have never heard of anyone using that technique. You mean just like dropshotting for bass? If so, is it productive and what do you use for the lure?
    I was honestly drop shotting for ANYTHING. I used a small 2 inch worm. I have never caught striper before but assumed if they were in the area that they were passing in schools through the main creek channel and not the shallow banks. Not sure if this is correct thinking but there was no activity shallow, I didnt see anything. Water clarity was good as well with about 2 feet of visibility at least. I estimate the deepest part being 10 feet so I just really wanted to get close to the bottom with the drop shot and figured I would get something to bite the last resort worm. Noob angler so dont take my 'techniques' serious as I have NO IDEA lol. Im just learning and seeing what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BassMoore View Post
    I fixed a small creek on the Severn today and manage three Pickrell and one rockfish but itís definitely looking like itís going to be another down season is I really see no bait in the creek at all


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    Nice! Further reiterating how bad I am lol, where were the pickerel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimHVids View Post
    Nice! Further reiterating how bad I am lol, where were the pickerel?
    Iíve always caught my pickerel right up on the shore or just off it . Always holding structure . Or somewhere without structure distance .


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    Quote Originally Posted by TimHVids View Post
    Summarized report: SKUNKED

    Details: Headed up stream in search of calm waters. Was throwing a shallow jerkbait at the banks and any logs/brush...
    That's a nice photo.

    You targeted the right areas for picks. I believe they simply are not present in Weems in numbers like they were prior to 2016.

    You didn't mention the size of your jerkbait. I use relatively small baits for pickerel...1/8 oz. jigs with a 3 inch Mr. Twister and bucktail jig spinners, 1/8 oz. Rat-L-Traps (with in-line single hooks) and size 4 foam poppers and Clousers on a fly rod. A technique to try on your retrieve is to stop and allow the lure/fly to suspend or sink momentarily. Pickerel will often hit a bait when it stops moving.

    It was windy the day you were out. I do not believe I have ever caught a pickerel where wind was rippling the surface of the water. They definitely prefer areas where the water surface is dead calm. But the good news about Weems and other Severn creeks is that you can usually find a sheltered area even on the windiest days.

    Bridge pilings -- They hold white perch and small stripers in warmer water. I have never caught a pickerel near them. Perch especially like the shade of the pilings and bridge decks in the summer.

    You do not need a fish finder for Weems or any Severn creek. None are deep. Fish the structure you see (and have already mentioned) or troll the edges and creek centers. Topwater in the very backs of the creeks and at the mouths of various coves may bring a striper strike in the fall.

    You gave it a good effort. Give it another try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BassMoore View Post
    Iíve always caught my pickerel right up on the shore or just off it . Always holding structure . Or somewhere without structure distance .


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    Yea those are the areas I was targeting. But as you said, you didnít see any bait, so I just donít think they were hanging around the creek I was fishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post

    You didn't mention the size of your jerkbait.

    ...But the good news about Weems and other Severn creeks is that you can usually find a sheltered area even on the windiest days.

    Bridge pilings -- They hold white perch and small stripers in warmer water. I have never caught a pickerel near them. Perch especially like the shade of the pilings and bridge decks in the summer.

    You do not need a fish finder for Weems or any Severn creek. None are deep. Fish the structure you see (and have already mentioned) or troll the edges and creek centers. Topwater in the very backs of the creeks and at the mouths of various coves may bring a striper strike in the fall.
    Thanks Mark,

    I was using a very light Jerkbait, I cant remember the weight but it had a max diving depth of 3 ft.

    Yes the one cove I spent most of the time on was pretty calm even though the main stretch was windy. But this is the area that had tons of leaves sitting 6 inches below the surface of the water. Couldn't really work the jerkbait much.

    Yea again, I have no idea what Im doing lol. I have seen people on youtube catch perch and crappie around bridge pilings so I just targeted those thinking they would be a location that at least had fish near it. At that point I wasnt thinking about the pickerel anymore, I was hoping to catch a few strippers but I dont think that was a good technique.. I was just throwing a hail mary at this point...

    well I wanted the fish finder to see if there was ANYTHING even in the vacinity. It would be good to have if I were on a trolling trip to see if the area had stripers moving around.
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    I have noticed alot more red fish around the bay the last 2 years, and recently a 105 lb Tropical Opah was caught in OC.. which is WAYYYY north for that kind of fish

    leading me to think maybe the salinity is getting at an all time high, and these pickerel have moved out of the creeks to find better water
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    BigRick,

    You've mentioned the third tidal tributary with an apparent pickerel population decline, the other two being the Magothy and the Severn.

    I'm curious during your good years if you had ever caught picks in Church Creek? I've accessed that creek in past years by the kayak launch at Homeport Farm Park. The creek looked like great pickerel water but I had never caught one there.

    Thanks,
    I have not caught any picks in Church Creek, (although I dont fish it often) but I dont see any reason they would not be in there. I fish mainly in Glebe Bay and its backwaters which is less than a mile away so they should be there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRick View Post
    I have not caught any picks in Church Creek, (although I dont fish it often) but I dont see any reason they would not be in there. I fish mainly in Glebe Bay and its backwaters which is less than a mile away so they should be there!
    I agree that the Church Creek habitat looks great for pickerel -- but I have never caught one there. The Capital newspaper ran an article during the past year suggesting that from historical practices, Church Creek was the most contaminated creek on the South River. They did not go into much detail on how and why the creek was contaminated.
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