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    Quote Originally Posted by J.A. Veil View Post
    Another kayak not on your initial list that is a wonderful boat for flat water and for tidal water on calm days is the Native Ultimate 12. http://nativewatercraft.com/product/ultimate-12/.

    It is lightweight (44 lbs hull weight), very stable, standable, and roomy. Both Mark and John Rentch got this boat during the past two years and are using that kayak more frequently than their pedal-drive kayaks.

    The retail price on that kayak is $949. I posted about six weeks ago that Cabelas in Delaware was closing their stock out for several hundred dollars less than that. I don't know if they still have any in stock at the sale price.
    I agree that the Ultimate 12 is an excellent fishing kayak for the waters smithmal mentioned. I like it so much that my Revo has been wet only 4 times this year. The reason I didn't suggest that he add an Ultimate 12 to his list is because he said weight wasn't an issue. It weighs slightly more than 1/2 as much as the kayaks he is favoring. In my eyes that's an asset but if he's going to trailer it, lightness wouldn't matter much. However, car-topping would add greatly to the number of sites where he could launch it. And it meets each of his other criteria.

    I reviewed the boat on Snaggedline perhaps before smithmal joined the forum. Here it is:

    http://www.snaggedline.com/showthrea...ltimate+Review

    smithmal -- If you want to test paddle it, PM me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithmal View Post
    I've decided, since I'm new to the game and not exactly sure how much I'll be able to yak fish with two small ones that keep me busy over the weekend, that it would be best to dip my toe into the yak fishing water rather than jumping in.

    My preference is to get a good stable fishing yak boat. I'm a big guy (6' 250lbs), so stability is very important and, I'd like to have the option to stand up and fish (since I will primarily go lake fishing).

    I've zero'd in on the following yaks (see table below). My preference is toward the F&S Shadow Caster (Dicks Sporting Goods; can get it @ $674 when on sale; can pick up local) and/or the Ascend FS12T (Bass Pro Shop; $650; can pick up local) which also happen to be the two least expensive.



    There are many, many video reviews on both of these yaks. I have seen some negative marks in regards to the FS12T in terms of the seat (you can actually see it fail when this guy is reviewing the yak)

    The biggest issue that I see with Shadow Caster is the weight. Weight is not much of an issue for me as I'll be trailering the yak. I'll also be primarily boating in calm conditions (lake) so even if the boat paddles like a barge, it shouldn't be too much of an issue. The Shadow Caster is thought of as a Lure clone (both the Lure and the Shadow Caster are made by the same manufacturer).

    The other big issue with my top two picks is that unless you know someone that has one, its very hard to demo either of these before buying.

    Are there any other sub $1000 yaks that fit my criteria (good stability) that I should include in my list?

    Thanks,

    smithmal
    I have an xfactor and really enjoy it. Very stable, versatile features. It has plenty of stability to stand up on....I know Fishtank stood in his all the time. i use the built in transducer mount, works great. I had a Stealth 14 before (same hull different top) that i liked well enough....loved the live well in it, especially when perch or trout fishing. Neither boat weighs 65lbs.....lol malibu. Such fibbers

    I am also a fan of the pescador. As a Tarpon knock-off, it is the fastest boat of the bunch, has a nice seat. I don't see standing on it being real fun. Still it is a fishable boat, but not for bigger guys.

    I have never paddled the vibe....i'd like to see if it is faster than x-factor, even though they are supposed to be same width.

    14.5 ft Sand colored Malibu X-Factor "the promise"

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    Quote Originally Posted by silasvirus82 View Post
    A jon boat with oars can get around pretty well. Keep in mind one stroke while rowing is 2x one stroke while paddling. Later down the road if you decide you're tired of rowing, you can take Mark's suggestion of putting a trolling motor on it and have the ultimate pond setup. I was a kid when I had my jon boat, so finding energy to row was never an issue.
    John,

    Looked up Jon Boats around me on craigslist and there are several used that are in my price point. They are pretty ragged though. The ones with the decent seats tend to be +$1000. Would I need to permit/register my boat with the state? What is the cost on that on an annual basis.

    A Jon Boat would definitely be the most stable and allow me to go out with my kids and/or friends on occasion. Also, I can fit an electric motor to it (which your not allowed to do for kayaks when boating in Liberty Reservoir) so it would allow me to explore the Reservoir much easier. For these reasons, I can definitely see the pros in it vs. a yak.

    smithmal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve6902 View Post
    I had a Vibe Sea Ghost 130 and Loved it. For $900 you get a great stadium style seat with HI/LO position, a rudder and a paddle. I'm 6'3" at 275 and I felt very comfortable in it. However I went with a Hobie Outback, so I sold it. Great people to deal with also.
    Steve,

    Vibe's Sea Ghost 130 is very impressive for the money. With the boat, you also get a paddle and a rudder. Its capacity for the weight is top notch (550lbs capacity @ 74lbs weight). The deal breaker for the boat for me was that the SG's center console completely eliminated the ability to have a decent floor deck. I would like to be able to easily turn, and move my feet around on the deck (especially if I get a big hit and need to re-balance myself). I also think the center console with the way the top flops off is clumsy and its utility is not good enough to warrant losing a large swath of floor deck.

    If it didn't have the center console, it would be at the top of my list as I'm sure the rudder makes tracking way easier than the other yaks I've listed.

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    Kevinfry,

    Thanks for posting your experience with the X-Factor. I've read that it is very stable. The critique video I posted on it has me worried though. Could you take a look at that video and let me know if the video OP's gripes were true (especially about the seat which literally broke while he was reviewing the yak).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithmal View Post
    Kevinfry,

    Thanks for posting your experience with the X-Factor. I've read that it is very stable. The critique video I posted on it has me worried though. Could you take a look at that video and let me know if the video OP's gripes were true (especially about the seat which literally broke while he was reviewing the yak).

    smithmal
    i dont see the xfactor video.....the one with the seat issue was the ascend i thought
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    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    I agree that the Ultimate 12 is an excellent fishing kayak for the waters smithmal mentioned. I like it so much that my Revo has been wet only 4 times this year. The reason I didn't suggest that he add an Ultimate 12 to his list is because he said weight wasn't an issue. It weighs slightly more than 1/2 as much as the kayaks he is favoring. In my eyes that's an asset but if he's going to trailer it, lightness wouldn't matter much. However, car-topping would add greatly to the number of sites where he could launch it. And it meets each of his other criteria.

    I reviewed the boat on Snaggedline perhaps before smithmal joined the forum. Here it is:

    http://www.snaggedline.com/showthrea...ltimate+Review

    smithmal -- If you want to test paddle it, PM me.
    John and Mark,

    Thanks for suggesting the Native Ultimate 12. I watched some vids on it and it looks pretty stable and its a very roomy clean design. Obviously without scuppers and b/c it's a sit in, taking it out where it could get some water would be a big mistake. I notices the deck isn't also completely flat (which I'd like to see) and the seat sits in it pretty low. Have you had any arm movement issues when fishing b/c of how low in the yak the seat is?

    What are your thoughts about the Ultimate 12 vs. the Ultimate FX 12. I read that you sit higher and the sides are higher allowing it to deal with rougher water better. I've also read that the FX is more stable.

    I actually just met a Native rep that indicated that he could get me a Native boat at cost if I wanted so Native is on my list.

    smithmal

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinfry View Post
    i dont see the xfactor video.....the one with the seat issue was the ascend i thought
    Kevinfry,

    Sorry... looking at too many yaks has got my brain fried. What I noticed about the X-factor is that it comes with an unbelievable amount of storage. It's also long and has a huge weight capacity. I still run into the issue of the center console not allowing for a lot of room on the floor deck. Do you have one? What do you think? Evidently the seat is crap. I see Malibu has released a new seat which doubles as a fishing lean support which is pretty cool (probably pretty pricey though).

    smithmal

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    Speaking of sub $1000 yaks. Does anyone know anything about Cabela's Advanced Angler's 120 yak?

    Huge floor deck with nice storage area for putting FF, battery and transducer. Heavy though (100lbs). Also comes with Cabela's lifetime warranty (not sure how good that is, but it does set it apart from other yaks). Looks like this boat is made by FeelFree.

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