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HokieDJ
11-13-2011, 09:51 PM
Went down with my friend to close out the 2011 fishing season looking for togs and to prove to myself it wasn't a fluke the first time around. Winds were 15-20 again so we headed to the southern ships first. There were about 5 other kayakers out there and 2 small boats looking for the same thing or stripers. After 4 hours of searching for the togs at both the southern and northern ships, I finally landed one but he didn't pass the eyeball test so I let him go since I forgot my measuring stick in the truck and my friend was 2 ships down.

What came next was most fun I had in a while fishing. We finally found the spot they were hiding and started hooking them left and right. It got to a point where we would take turns fishing the spot and hooking them as soon as 5 seconds after the drop. One person would wait in line and come in as soon as the other hooked a fish and drifted away to rebait and queued up again. Most were between 13"-14". I stopped counting after my tenth one and I went home with a 14.5" and 17" while my friend took home a 17.5" and 18".

CB kayak 02
11-13-2011, 11:02 PM
Nice work!! Got any pics?

HokieDJ
11-14-2011, 09:48 AM
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MetroMan
11-14-2011, 09:52 AM
Nice going!!

robchoi
11-14-2011, 11:02 AM
Nice. Good job.

Grilled
11-14-2011, 11:05 AM
nice job....that makes up for the crappy night at HRBT!

HokieDJ
11-14-2011, 02:32 PM
Thanks. HRBT sucked. I have bad night vision as is already but I was totally lost out here. I expected to see stacked fish or even fish silhouettes but all I saw were the light reflections and waves.

I'm not going out again unless it's with someone who has caught something to show my blind ass what it's like.

mytmouse
11-14-2011, 05:25 PM
Good stuff man! We were too early for the Tog when we went. I wanna get down there ASAP!!! :)

tufnik
11-14-2011, 05:26 PM
Nice fat one!

We have to put in the time. The odds will catch up. Keeping going and one day we'll hit paydirt at HRBT.

HokieDJ
11-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Maybe when I get the evolve. I can't keep up with you Tufnik! :)

If you guys go down for togs, fwiw I had action both times on the beginning of the outgoing tide after slack.

ComeOnFish
11-15-2011, 06:00 AM
Way to go, Dave!
Kipto was the right call.

Joe

Memory Maker
11-15-2011, 09:40 AM
Yeah ........ we were there to in a 20' dual console. Saw you hook that first 1 I think. We were headed to the cut between before Fisherman's Island but it was too rough to get out ....... there were 3-4 fters coming in the channel between the ships ........ fished for awhile but no love ........ then I contacted Toadfish and he said it was calm on the other side of the bridge so off we went ........ fished stripers and got one in the 2 hrs fishing before dark .......... went back on Sunday and the winds were worse ...... ended he ended w/1 tog ........ I had 2 on but the power pro broke each time .... switched rods and no more bites ......... first time I.ve been skunked in years ...... sure hope it's not a trend ........

Monday was even worse so we came home

HokieDJ
11-15-2011, 10:50 AM
Oh was that you in the blue top boat I overheard talking about evolve? I saw you guys trying to leave in the middle of the ships. That was a scary crossing. At one point, I surfed the 4 ft waves and decide it was a dumb idea and turn around the peddled head on instead :)

ComeOnFish
11-15-2011, 03:07 PM
Dave,

What was your bait and where did you get your bait?

joe

HokieDJ
11-15-2011, 03:15 PM
Joe,

Blue crab from Lotto. I picked the nice lively big ones to quarter. I kept them alive and not break their claws until i'm ready to quarter them. One of those bastards pinched the heck out of my finger for 30 seconds until i could find a pliers.

What we did was "chum" the area by throwing all the crab parts we didn't use to entice them to come out. Not sure if it mattered but we think it did.

Memory Maker
11-15-2011, 05:13 PM
Oh was that you in the blue top boat I overheard talking about evolve? I saw you guys trying to leave in the middle of the ships. That was a scary crossing. At one point, I surfed the 4 ft waves and decide it was a dumb idea and turn around the peddled head on instead :)

Yeah that was us ......I was the guy coughing his head off ....

it was crazy to see waves almost come over the bow .......... on the inside of the ships ........

We never made it past the ships ..... could see the malestrom on the outside of the ships through the holes ....... wasn't pretty

Toadfish told us that it was calm on the VA beach side so we went there and it was manageable ........

Coming home from the second Island on Sunday REALLY made me decide to buy the Torqeedo .......... 20 - 30 mph winds 2-3 ft waves coming from the south and that's the way you had to go ..........this 60 yr old guy would have been toast ......... and it was fairly calm when we went out ....... things change quickly down there ........

but Man did I miss my PA ............ couldn't get close enough to the rocks to fish it effectively for stripers even with the engine running and couldn't anchor close enough to the rocks and pilings to tog properly ......... saw Jetski Brian ....... he wasn't happy because he only caught 20 in 4 hours ....... showed us the 4 on the stringer ........ we caught 1 all day and missed 3 ........

the PA would have been perfect for that kind of fishing ........

ComeOnFish
11-15-2011, 10:05 PM
Joe,

Blue crab from Lotto. I picked the nice lively big ones to quarter. I kept them alive and not break their claws until i'm ready to quarter them. One of those bastards pinched the heck out of my finger for 30 seconds until i could find a pliers.

What we did was "chum" the area by throwing all the crab parts we didn't use to entice them to come out. Not sure if it mattered but we think it did.

Dave,
You meant Lotte in Chantilly - that was the one I've been buying crab from. Chumming sounds good. I think chumming inside the ships will work well. I guess buying additional 2 dozens for chum is not a bad investment for a desperate man like me.

After enjoying tog, does she force you go fishing every day?

Joe

HokieDJ
11-15-2011, 10:19 PM
Joe,

Yes. They have a good selection. I don't think you need 2 dozens. My friend and I only had 8 each. You should have enough chum with the claws and hard shell top itself with the mustard. Once you find one, you'll find his family :) It took me 6 times before I found the big brothers and sisters.

The wife is tired of taking care of both little ones while i take the whole weekend off. Maybe your's can come and convince her to let me go down 1 more time with you.
:)

Dave

Grilled
11-15-2011, 10:29 PM
i bought a dozen blue crabs at oceans east this past weekend and only used a few at CBBT. I froze them when I got home on Sunday, surprising they were all alive, u guys think they will be good for the next trip or will they fall apart on the hook? Never really tried freezing live crabs. I got the skunk at CBBT for tog, looks like i should of hit kipto. Took me 2hrs to get back to shore, the current was off the hook.

tufnik
11-15-2011, 10:48 PM
I buy them from both Lotte in Chantilly and Fairfax. I think Chantilly has better turn over, so their fish market is generally fresher.

I guess it's relative. I got skunked for togs at Kipto and been wanting to go to CBBT.

I froze the same blue crabs twice. No, it doesn't fall apart on the hook. Apparently, it does spoil quickly, so I think that's why the crab didn't get any nibbles. So, I would freeze them only once at the most. You may not want to take the chance and only use them once after you kill them. After an outing, dump them.

HokieDJ
11-16-2011, 09:27 AM
I guess frozen will work but fresh is always best. I would not refreeze them for sure. Once a crab dies, it deteriorates pretty fast. The first trip, I kept them in ice with damp newspaper and they smelled pretty fresh the night after. Last time, I got lazy and just put them in the cooler. When I checked in the hotel, a few had died and you could smell that funk already.

Of all I read, I think they should be around till the lower 50s for water temperature. A local guide I talked to said that the holes facing the bay side holds some nice togs but course i never got a chance to verify due to the wind conditions.

Good luck to all if you go down.

ComeOnFish
11-16-2011, 11:10 AM
tufnik,
Now I see you live in Fairfax. That is good to know.

joe

ComeOnFish
11-16-2011, 11:16 AM
I carry a big cooler with ice, wine (if allowed) and crab. If I have more than 6 crab left over I will eat them at home. Crab are multi purpose bait to me

joe